The Debate between HealthWyze.org and Jim Humble about whether M.M.S. is a Fraud
| Written by Sarah Cain Friday, 06 August 2010 05:12 |
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From the editor: In an attempt to escape the criticisms of our site and other media sources, Jim has renamed M.M.S. to be an acronym for 'Master Miracle Solution', instead of the previous 'Miracle Mineral Solution'.
Are you ready to rumble?
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| In the left corner, we have Jim Humble, inventor of Miracle Mineral Solution. | In the right corner, we have weighing in, Sarah Cain of HealthWyze.org |
Introduction
On the 30th of July, I browsed through my e-mail messages to make a startling discovery. We had received a message from none other than Jim "MMS" Humble. After a brief moment of eye rubbing, to ensure that I had not been hallucinating, I eagerly read his message and then shared it with Thomas. Humble was upset about the unflattering findings that our research uncovered about his cash cow, which I chronicled in the article, Another Fraud Of Alternative Medicine: M.M.S..
His message thusly began:
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Thomas and Sarahlcain, In looking this site over I find quite a lot of useful information. Thus I wondered if you might be interested in opening a dialogue concerning what I am doing since there is a lot of inaccuracies in you information about my stuff, MMS, that is if you know who I am. I have no animosity towards those of you who talk as you do. Possibly we could have an amiable dialogue. up to you Jim Humble |
Thomas replied with:
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Mr. Humble, Yes, we did plenty of research into M.M.S., so we are familiar with you. There are two possibilities that I see here: 1. You really believe in what you are doing or 2. you have real guts. It is possibly both. We take our work very seriously. Seeking the truth is one of our highest objectives: just behind 'first do no harm'. We would never print anything that we were not absolutely certain was true. Not only are there moral issues at play; but moreover, our credibility is always on the line. If you would like a chance to debate us, in order to demonstrate that we have been wrong, then I suggest we do it out in the open. Let's not debate privately in the shadows, because complete openness and honesty are principles that we value, and because this issue has the potential to have a massive impact on the lives of our readers. We normally would not make such an offer to someone who we so strongly feel is harming people, but I get the overwhelming impression that you sincerely believe in what you are doing. Your noble intentions have earned you some karma in my opinion. If an open and public debate seems agreeable to you, then we will need to agree to some basic rules, like how long our debate should last, and how long the replies may be. I will do no editing on your replies, unless you want me to. Perhaps I could use a picture of us and a picture of you at the top, if that's okay. Readers really like that sort of personal touch, and it draws them into the story. -- Thomas Corriher |
Jim Humble accepted the challenge, so here we are with the debate for all to see. We play no games and have very few secrets here. Unfortunately, Mr. Humble did not do the same. Immediately after accepting our challenge, we suddenly and coincidentally began getting flooded with pro-MMS e-mails and article comments from people pretending to be concerned average Joes and regular readers of The Health Wyze Report. Mr. Humble and his sock puppet partners apparently believe that we are as naïve as M.M.S. customers are, despite the work that we have already done in exposing him. This MMS brigade has flooded countless online forums with deceptive astroturf messages in an attempt to convince everyone that M.M.S. is a legitimate medicine, and that people all over the world are using it safely every day to cure any and every ailment. Some of these posts even claim that it is doctor recommended by phantom doctors who do not seem to exist, even though it is not approved for human consumption (much less medicine) in any country in the world. Until we began getting such messages recently, a part of me wanted to believe that he meant well, and might actually conduct himself in an honorable manner. Further aggravation was caused by the fact that I have a personal problem with anyone who makes a habit of insulting our intelligence; especially concerning those who have not the intellectual resources to do it. Yes, that's a personal problem, and now all of you know that it is one of my buttons.
I suppose that we should have expected the behavior that he demonstrated from his well known reputation as a con artist; but whenever someone writes that he wants to begin a peaceful and friendly relationship, then a part of me really wants to believe it. I want people to be good and to do the right things, and it breaks my heart that it is so rare. In regard to Humble's infamous reputation, just look him up on the Internet for yourself. Readers will notice that he, and his business partners, are all over flooding forums with dishonest astroturf messages in an attempt to convince us that M.M.S. is legitimate medicine. The number of messages from people clearly hiding their identities and their exaggerated claims grow every time that we look. The usual pattern is that you don't need anything except M.M.S., because it does everything from cancer to AIDS, and it even makes a person stronger than Popeye. The M.M.S. claims are flabbergasting, but they barely compare to Humble's claims about himself.
Did you know that Humble is single-handedly wiping out malaria in Africa? All the Africans had to do was drink his bleach-like 'miracle' solution, and suddenly their malaria symptoms were not so noticeable anymore. Isn't that like hitting oneself on the toe with a hammer in order to forget a tooth ache? Now that's what we call 'medical progress' at HealthWyze. We are still waiting for the proof of Humble's 'miracles', but that data is just too suppressed to ever get out; according to Humble, that is. Convenient, isn't it? In the meantime, we'll just have to bank on Humble's integrity.
Believe it or not, that's not all that Humble has accomplished. According to one of his marketing sites, "Jim" is a former aerospace engineer. We figure he builds full scale space shuttles in his back yard, but that's not all! He also helped the moon missions by designing the lunar rovers. This is just the beginning of Jim's glory. He helped design the first atomic bombs too, so he was likely to have been personal friends with Albert Einstein. I must wonder if he constantly insulted Einstein's intelligence too. He also made the first satellite remote control digital logic circuits at Huges Aerospace Corp., and then he innovated analog electronics too, by documenting how forgone vacuum tube based computers work. He did that last task for the less gifted, little people.
On the topic of his MMS websites, there are some unique patterns to them. All of them pretend to be made by independent 3rd parties, yet virtually all of them are hosted with Bluehost. That's just a coincidence, of course. If that were not enough of a coincidence, then how about the fact that each of these sites hides the person who registered their DNS (dot.com name) by using the anonymous Domains By Proxy service? Indeed, the 'Miracle Mineral Solution' web sites' network 'whois' (Who Is ....) information is entirely unavailable for any of the main MMS sites, because all of their registrations are being hidden via Domains By Proxy. A person could get the impression that all those "independent" sites were produced, and paid for by a single person, who is trying to hide his identity.
When he's not building spacecraft for N.A.S.A., one of Humble's favorite hobbies is Photo Shop editing photographs to make it appear as if he has done things that he has not really done, or been to places that he has not really been. Closely inspect these forgeries from his sites.
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In these photos, he's playing doctor again, and he is even sporting improperly fitting lab coats. Notice the glow around the guy's head in the yellow shirt, and around the two ladies' heads on the right? That isn't The Force we're seeing. These are remnants of cut and paste operations from photo editing software. Jim may be the world's best aeronautical engineer, computer engineer, and atomic weapons expert, but his Photo Shop skills leave much to be desired. Click on the right image to get a better view of Jim's lackluster photo fabrications. Less informed people might get the impression that Jim is not a completely honest person, but of course, we know that these photos actually show him saving Africa from malaria.
Anyway, Thomas specified the rules of my debate with Humble. The rules specified a 500 word limit for each side's replies, and a single argument per day, which was to last for a period of 2 weeks. Of course, Mr. Humble did not abide by the rules. He pretended like he was too confused to understand our previously agreed upon rules of conduct, once he began sending us his tirades. Considering his supposed past intellectual accomplishments, we found his sudden confusion to be rather intriguing, and it is what we would expect from a sociopathic manipulator. We have seen Humble's type of arrogance before, and we studied Humble's modus operandi enough to anticipate that he would flood us with overwhelmingly lengthy, circular arguments, in an attempt to wear us down. The confirmation of our predictions about him told us that Mr. Humble had no comprehension whatsoever of what, or who he was up against. We were okay with that. He was welcome to make a noose and insert his head inside. So be it.
